your parents. >> bob: form of binge drinking is dangerous. >> kimberly: i know. i'm just telling you, believe it or not this is the case. >> eric: very quickly. take a look at the picture michigan son. last year, he lacerated his spleen. had to take the whole year off. back on the slopes. a little videotape. i'm taping this with my iphone. with my glove off. then i barrel into him and he got mad at me. i was taping him. >> kimberly: see what happens. don't iphone video while sk skiing. >> we have to leave it there. thank you for watching. again, we'll have a great year. fun this year. thanks for watching.

welcome to "red eye." i'm andy levy in for greg gutfeld who is learning the hard way he shouldn't have spent the night in bangkok. now we go to mike baker for a pre game report. diligence, because our government is not allowed to torture anymore. what is coming up on tonight's show? >> thank you, andy, and happy new year to you and your family. >> thank you. >> coming up on tonight's show, a story that pits the media's god given right to engage in stupid behavior of americans to legally own weapons. and why a french government minister with a hard to pronounce names is up in arms over hate speech. we will take turns butchering her name and then talk pretentiously about god's existence. and what did john boehner say to harry reid when the two met in the capitol building after the fiscal cliff deal? regardless senator reid is probably too old and inflexible to comply. all that and more next. >> happy new year to you as well.

let's welcome our guest. i am here with fox business network anchor lori roth man. >> that's it? >> that's all you get. >> okay, fine. >> comedian, joe devito. that's all he gets too. bill schulz, sorry. and sitting next to me is rob long, former "cheers" screenwriter and the co-founder of ricochet.com. >> that's an intro. >> because you deserved it. >> i showed up. >> exactly. that's 80%. and it is a new year, but sadly he is still here. how are you, pinch? >> thanks for saving the time and the intro for me. i am taken by this philly perched on top of the chair over here. lori rothman, how would you like to work this my world renouned business section. section? entitlements from all apart from evil rich, and i can tell you your duties include trimming paul krugman's facial hair.

i call him what i want. i am the paper of record. and you will need to change porch's doo-doo box every morning. he is quite regular. >> hello andy. hi lori. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> remember, viewers, it is all your fault. they villa fied the gun it will they needed one. they published the names and addresses of license holders and they now hired armed security guards to protect their own offices. the journal news received a mountain of negative calls and e-mails in response to the outing. and the rival newspaper broke the armed guard's story with relish, i am guessing with the editor-in-chief writing, quote, guns are good for the goose, but not the began deer. despiting the huh poke craw see they want to expand to put -- putnam county.

but they said there is a rule of law and there is right and wrong. the journal news is clearly wrong. i could not live with myself if one pistol permit holder was put in harm's way for the soul purpose of selling newspapers. elsewhere, the gun debate rages on. >> that show is out of control. rob, welcome to the showment welcome back. it has been awhile. >> glad to be here. >> how ironic is the irony here? >> they hired a well regulated militia. they hired a well regulated militia to defend themselves. why did we become such drama queens? they say i am in danger

because they printed my name. and the editors complain i am in danger because of the bad e-mails. everybody is complaining. >> here is how i feel. if i lived in one of the counties and owned a gun i would be pissed. but if i didn't own a gun i would be more pissed because they put a big rob me sign on those houses. >> that's true, but if you are an apocalyptic thinker like i am and you are worried about the event, i want to know whose house i can go to for protection . >> or to be shot dead before you get inside. >> get away from me, that's right. >> the journal news was in their right to publish the name of the gun owner. should they have done it? >> i think it was in poor taste. i hope it wasn't just to sell newspapers. i hope in the editor's mind they were thinking they were going to do a good deed toward diminishing gun violence. but again i think it is ironic. i think h's hipocritical. now that they need armed guards they technically have

more guns in west chester county than they did before they published it. >> what good would have come from this? >> i can speak as a mother as to what good could have come from this. i actually have a kinder gardener in school about 45 minutes from newtown as a matter of fact. out of curiosity i was -- i pulled up the site and long story short i am thinking my kid is in public school. she plays at her friend's house. are any of those kids in homes with gun permits? then you think about it and say, gosh, will i not let my kid play that house? i might not if i had known the site existed. and then there is that backlash. will i pull her out of there because this person has a gun? there are so many ways to follow it. that could be one thing to come of it. i think it is in bad taste all around. >> the journal news said they hired the armed guards because they got negative e-mails and phone calls, shocking that

would happen. but the local cops looked at the e-mails. they said they were not threatening, so why the security? >> i don't know. that has to be an awkward first day for these armed guards. they were saying thank you so much. we will need to publish your personal information. >> i don't know. i guess what lori said made sense. >> i never heard that before. >> congratulations. >> it means so much. >> what could they have thought they were doing in terms of any sort of practical benefit to it? what i think they are doing is they think having the gun is bad, and they publish this list to shame the people who have the guns. but in terms of practice practical, you have told people -- these are pistol permits. it is what -- people like to call everything an assault weapon. from what i understand it is a made up term that doesn't have anything legal. >> the deer is being assaulted. >> it is like calling something a bullet gun.

and also what is good for the goos good for the gander is not a good metaphor when you talk about guns. i am trying to look at it and say what did they think they were accomplishing other than saying you are a bad person because you have this gun? and why are you trying to piss off gun owners? i don't understand how you logically >> that's a good point. people on both sides of the debate, gun control lobbyists and those who are pro gun agree that you should face a firing squad. i don't have a question. >> no, i just thought you should know that. >> i thought there would be nicer exchanges in the new year. i felt we talked about that. that's disappointing. starting off the show on a bad foot. i actually never considered lori's point about being a parent. i thought this was good. i thought, well we are ticking these guys and probably something you didn't have to do. as a parent i have three i will legitimate kids and when i know where they are, i want

to know if they are in a place that could have access to guns. i don't want them anywhere near guns. but they developed quite a healthy meth habit because you can't be a parent 24/7. they are there and they are high on the crystal, i don't necessarily want them to have a glock in their hand. i know my neighbors don't. >> any place your children are is safer than with you. jay any place my children are are none of your damn business, sir. especially the ones over 18 to my knowledge. >> i have a question. a new york state senator has now introduced legislation to make these gun permit lists off limits to the public. but unless and until that law passes, how can the putnam county clerk not give the names to the newspaper? there is one thing that is the law and another thing that is right and wrong. he is duty bound to uphold the law, isn't he? >> a lot of records are sealed. >> but these aren't. >> it is not required. it is an administrative thing.

>> really? >> yes. i am talking directly through my butt right now. >> absolutely. >> we could find out later, but i will stick with it and say it more emphatically. i don't think you understand, andy. >> because you said it emphatically. you answered the question to my satisfaction. >> where is a list of illegal gun owners? that's the list we need to have. let's see journalism get done jie. a guy who writes a -- >> a guy who writes a pointer says the problem with what the journal news did was not necessarily the violation of privacy because journalists do that all the time in order to get at a story 6789 the violation -- it is that the violation didn't accomplish anything. they should produce outstanding insight into a problem, and this doesn't. it just gives uh list of names. >> it could backfire. the whole point of publishing this list is to demonize the

gun owners. i foe that guy. he is not crazy. he is not a gun nut. the liberal media wants all gun owners to be crazy gun nuts, those who live in idaho in an encampment someplace. but it might be your neighbor and you might think that is okay. well, andy levy is not crazy. he has a gun. >> this is my hometown newspaper. i lived in west chester county. it was kind of a resource there. i am just glad they didn't put out the information for who subscribes to the feminic boutique. then i would have had a problem. >> you just added yourself. we will need specifics like a street address, numbers? >> if you read the police blotter it is like cat up a tree, dogs barking. that's coming from my house, the dogs. >> not on the weekends. >> it caused more outrage in the country than in west chester itself. that's what you could say about what happened in newtown.

that's the apple picking pumping land. nobody that it would happen. my reaction working here at fox business and living in west chester, it is like we care about it more here than we do in the county, but the fact is that is the danger. >> a more usefulness is who are the crazy people and where do they live? >> that would probably be illegal. those records are sealed. >> here is the thing. they are not sealed. >> i am moving on before rob makes up more stuff. from firearms to finances. well, it is a collective we from growers of algae. the fiscal cliff deal is a boone for pals of a nonflowering plant as i predict owed my tumbler. under the plan the government will fore go tax revenue over the next two years by extending tax credits for select businesses that were set to expire. algae growers, ie big algae, will benefit to a tune of $59 million. other businesses getting tax

perks, nascar, yay, hollywood, boo, railroads, eh, and the virgin islands. huh? importing rum. yay. what it means for americans let's go "red eye" congressional correspondent. >> that is a slow loris. >> nancy pelosi is beside herself. >> not to be confused with a slow lori. >> lori, you are the business person so you claim. why all of these tax perks? are they good or bad? >> you want to go back down the list? port projects are a commonplace in most budget bills. a lot are egregious especially the algae thing, the motorcycle makers, whatever else. you said the hollywood

exemptions were ridiculous or said eh? >> i said bo. >> thank you. i think it is good to job creation. california is sucking wind right now. jay i don't disagree with you. >> you said something opposite before. you were booing. >> i was calling them boo. >> that's my boo, hollywood. i like it. >> okay, rob, hollywood is getting $430 million is what it will come out to in tax breaks. good or bad? >> any subsidees or any tax breaks for special interests are bad. that's why republicans are such terrible shape. we are finding out about all of this stuff now. we spent the past two weeks hearing about this stuff. they should be making barack obama a defendant instead of hearing about it now after the fact. sometimes they subsidize people's salaries. it just says, okay, there is more money to give around so we can pay brad pitt more money. >> the argument is it stops

projects from going to canada and other places and keeps them here where they will hire more people. >> there is zero evidence. people go to canada because it is cheaper all the way around. >> which answers youry request. it is cheaper all the way around, so they are trying to make it cheap neither california. >> you don't make it cheaper, you subsidize. you allow brad pitt to get all the money you want. >> you are giving tax breaks to the production companies. you are saying it is not a meaningful deduction. it is like the couch change versus the wider change revenue. >> a dollar spent on production no matter what you spend it on is spent on production. you spend it on the big star or a second unit. >> there are all of those workers in the second unit who are not making the salary of brad pitt, but they are based in the united states versus out of the country. so the production crew would hire domestically. >> it doesn't work that way. they make the movie for cheaper, and they go to canada anyway. >> what is this buying the second unit stuff? what are you talking about? you are bolt fillet.

both filth. >> algae growers growers are getting $59 million in tax breaks. is that enough? >> i say legalize it, sure. about time. it needs to all stop. i agree. no more subsidizing any of these things. if somebody is making a good product and they found a good way to do it, no matter what, they should succeed. if they can't, we need to stop acting -- to the point of they need these subsidees in california. the reason it is expensive because they expect the money to come in. if you know you will be subsidized it is the same thing with higher education. they can charge more than the product is worth because they know someone else will foot the bill. >> it is a good point. the student loan debt is the next bubble to burst, they say. >> it already is. anytime you have the government step in and say, well, we are going to give money to support this particular business, it is usually a business with a bad business model. >> i think the bigger question is what is the appropriate level of a government safety net? in terms of what your tax --

and this is a big debate in the country. what fiscal policy should be so people -- an industry that needs the support gets it and gets the right amount, and it is not something that is being wasted. >> here is the thing though. i have to interrupt because i hate talking about the fiscal cliff. i want to move on to something else. after the cliff vote they did not vote on a promise bill. at a press conference on wednesday, chris chris stey said there is -- chris chris christie says there is plenty of blame for that. >> there is one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims, the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. >> okay maybe he didn't say that. joe, i want to get to you. were you shocked to hear such blunt language? >> i guess obama didn't work out the way he thought it was

going to. you look at something and you think, well, we need to have this money in case there is a hurricane, and then they lard it up with the other nonsense. that's why we don't have the money to spend on these things that are a crisis. when things are going well, the government doesn't want to save money. they say things are going great. this will never end. when it is a crisis they say we need to keep pulling more money. it is never going to make sense. >> bill, you are never going to make sense either, but try. >> was that a question? >> i raised my vocal inflection. >> this new tone thing is not working out. this is show number one. >> this is rehearsal. >> oh, all right. descroi to wear my coat then? >> yes. jay you look spiffey. >> what do you like about it? >> i have never seen you dressed up. i almost didn't recognize you. >> layers, melee yes, sirs. many layers. >> the sandy thing, you have to -- i understand there is no

off sending spending cuts. and i totally disagree -- it is heartbreaking actually considering how much money went to katrina and how much it went to that disaster versus sandy and how many are suffering from sandy. it is horrible. >> but you don't care, do you? >> that's not what i am saying. >> that's what you are saying. >> last word to me on that one. coming up, should you only buy stock in companies that start with the letter p? lori rothman wither increasingly vocalness. and who will kim and kanye sell their newborn pictures to? the story the white house will stop at nothing to conceal. you are watching "red eye" on fnc so stick around.

should on-line bigotry be treated differently? it includes vial statement made on social media. last month's trending topics like if my son is gay and if my daughter brought home a black man prompted thousands of homophobic and racist messages. now one official doesn't want to prosecute individual tweeters, but reform twitter. she said it is a, quote, sense of responsibility. they say, i want us to work together to put in place alerts and security measures that will ensure the unfortunate events will not occur again. basically she wants twitter to help prosecute or even ban hate speech in line with french laws. one individual responsible for a number of hateful tweets has been identified. i believe we have tape?

>> adorable, but racist. >> clearly. >> it happens that way sometimes. >> the video or lori? >> hard to say. rob, this is for them who say they need to follow france's example. i was surprised in the green room you say you agree with him. >> that's not true. as i think you recall, i just got back from france at 4:00 this afternoon i landed from france. that's why i am groggy. usually greg hooks me up with aderol to get through the afternoon. you can't look at what is happening as far as gay men and women in the past 20 years and not think things are getting better. gay marriage is the law in france and a lot of the states and a lot more states in the next five or 10 years. that's a good thing. that's because of the visibility. with visibility comes a little more stuff happening.

there are many more people in the world that can broadcast their opinions, and unfortunately a lot of those people are [bleep]. no disrespect. >> i just tbot back from eating french fries. two can play at that game. >> i actually don't think the downside of letting these people air their bigotry matches the downside of sensorship. >> but i will play devil's advocate here. the french minister says homophobic violence verbal and otherwise is the number one cause of suicide among french teenagers. could you argue these words are actually sort of a weapon and are we too absolutist in our defenses? >> no, i don't think they understand the difference. there is a big gulf between speech and action. i like to maintain a good balance between hate speech and pathetic cries for help. you need to strike. >> it is hard to tell the difference. >> you know, i just flew in

from the green room. no one was there. i think the idea that they -- we don't fetish this in the united states. one of the reasons we made a new country was because these ideas that they have in europe like they just don't get it. i think it might be because we never had kings and queens. to us the idea that you can't even mention certain things -- it is just not an american way of thinking. in other parts of the country they look at it like how could you even form these words? i think you of need twitter and the obnoxious jerky people to look at it and be like, look at this idiot. you take on their argument. if you just say if they don't talk about it it is not happening, i don't think that makes sense. >> lori, i agree with joe. if i ran twitter i would say to the french government, wree a platform for people to speak their mind. if you have a problem with that, tough crap. >> but they don't mess around in france with the hate

speech. i hope in the united states we can maintain the first amendment. it is great until it leads to harm, violence. what is the law? >> i have done it before, nothing will happen. >> there is a huge argument about how the united states is going the way of europe, france, greece in particular and fiscal policy pass. i just hope we can maintain our freedom of speech in the first amendment. that is paramount, and that's what sets us apartment. >> and 50 years ago in france they would have had speech codes prohibiting talk of homosexuality at all. speech codes in general are a bad idea. >> absolutely. as someone who receives mountains of hateful tweets, a lot from lori, and to be fair all deserved, would you prefer the european approach? >> there is a lot of european approaches i do prefer. >> did you lose your train of thought? >> i am trying to make a

cogent cogent-point here. let me get back to this. there is no translation in france. i believe toby keith said that. that makes me sick. anyone who says these things can't be said are worse than the people who said them to begin with. having said that -- >> are you done? >> i am sick of french bashing. we will not have freedom, period, if it weren't for the frogs coming over here. 75% if you are rich. i am not, sister. third of all, there are a lot of good things in france. namely "les miserables." >> on that note, have a comment on the show? e-mail us at red eye at fox news.com. and do you have an e-mail of your animal doing something? we might use it. still to come, the half time report by mike baker. >> it is sponsored by ice cricket. that bat and ball game played on ice and the goal is to score the most runs.

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we are back. let's see if we got anything wrong. for that we go to mike baker's profile. >> i am looking at my computer. >> i know. >> that's where we do a lot of research in america's newsroom. did you know that apparently there is talk that katie

holmes is dating jake jill -- jake gyllenhall now? >> i heard that rumor was unfounded, baker. >> it is here on the internet. >> -- let's get straight to it. >> too late for that. >> no, that's not for another two minutes or so. a lot of talk about people clamoring and people wanting to though what the numbers look like to close out 2012. the wanker gap as you can see here is up. that is quarterly basis, but for the entire year, up 22%. the sprockets oddly enough were flat throughout the course of the year which is interesting and somewhat unexplainable. a lot of concern over this. 2012 and we all know the calculation to come up with the values. you can do your own math at home. i'm sure you will. news corporation is very pleased with this, andy.

and it means that everybody including me are keeping our jobs for another year. top line revenue is up with a healthy bottom line margin of, what did i say it was? 24%. 24% after everything else. >> that's after cogs? >> yes. >> wow. >> i know. >> this is my twitter. >> because you asked, andy, why go to idaho? reason number two 3, i had a morning flight leaving idaho. my time of de part -- departure was 4:45 in the morning. >> that's amazing. >> and plenty of time to talk to hank and get a cup of coffee at mokesy java. >> and sneak your weapon on board the plane. >> of course. >> your ceramic guns. >> i will go to a comment that rob made. i don't want to forget this. you said during the course of

story one which was about the journal gun map that the media tends to want to portray all gun owners as crazy. your quote was like people in the, i don't know, idaho. >> i mentioned idaho specifically. >> was that coincidental? >> you tell me. exhibit a is the stuff you just showed. you have a business. people hire you as an expert. i don't get it. >> explain it to him off camera with what i talked about the business. >> it is not a bottom line. you have the bottom line margin. >> we are running a healthy margin. >> it is prove fit and loss. >> you have your above line performance and below line performance. >> you are all over it. >> i am all over it. the general gun map story you

said why not become drama queens? february 18th, 2009. >> that's good. >> you were close. >> thanks, obama. >> lori, you made an interesting point. as a mother you said with a kindergardeners and i too have a kindergardeners, you said one possible point of this gun map is to check to see if your kids' friends are gun owners. >> right. >> that begs the question what would you do if you found out one was? >> what do you do, not let your child play with the other kid? it is like what you don't know doesn't hurt you sometimes because the chances of something horrible happening are so slim. however, in newtown it did happen, and it happened several times before that sadly. i don't think there is an answer to this. i am struggling with the whole gun debate right now personally. >> may i offer something to this? >> please. >> i think under no circumstances whatsoever should your kindergardeners ever get anywhere near baker's kindergardeners, and it has

nothing to do with guns and everything to do with the fact that the kid's first word was sprocket. >> do not talk about scooter like that. he is a fine young man. >> scooter does president scoot. i don't get the name. >> he has himself a girl friend now by the way. joe, i think you #r* spot on. the purpose of the gun map was to shame people who are legal gun owners. >> that's right. i think people forget that someone like you can kill a hoard of people with just a pen. >> where does it end? exactly. what are you going to do? where do you think this is going? lori just said she doesn't know where this is going. you generate a lot of outrage. where do you think this is going? >> i am not even sure what they were trying to prove from the start. they said they would publish the gun owners from a neighboring county. they are not learning any kind of lesson. we'll see. armed guards were supposed to be there until today. the armed guards are leaving

this week for wherever. to mount a campaign or whatever. >> you mentioned that there was legislation that was in the works. >> yes, ma'am. >> and it would make this information, the database identifies the legal gun owners and it would make that private and not accessible to the public. do you agree with the legislation? >> i am fine with that. also, it is permit holders, right? it is not weapons owners. >> it is permit owners. which often tiements -- times said they would buy a weapon. he made the good p oi nt, how about a database of illegal gun owners? >> i like that we have this court clerk who is damn the law. i willisen to my heart which is what you want to see in the public employees. they will allow it. >> again, i am a firm believer in the second amendment. i am concerned that the government will do something

in a knee jerk reaction in the course of this sad, sad story. as they often do when they try to push something through. but that's just me on my soapbox. going next door, number two, don't have much time left. lori, you are in favor of the hollywood incentives. >> why not? i don't want to get crushed again. i am scared to comment further. >> it was a good debate between you and rob. rob being more skeptical about the purpose of these incentives. >> and he is the insider and i am looking at it from a business spur tech tiff. -- business perspective. >> if they tea vowed this, i -- if they tivoed this, i would suggest they look at the middle and there is a clip of bill staring, and he is staring into the camera. i think what we should do is find the clip during the course of the debate and freeze it. if we can show it later in the show -- >> if there is anyone watching right now this is one f-ed up

brady bunch. >> and may i say 80% failed. >> it doesn't work. >> i would like to say if i could that i just got back today from france. i need to say that twice so it is a write off. >> i should also point out that 82% i pulled that out of my ass. and finally the pre spheech -- speech, i would like to you bring that up. you did just come back from france. we will need your receipts by the way at the end of the show. >> that's a third time. it is such a writeoff. >> what is the big news in france now? >> the about ig news in france is the 75% tax rate which the president wanted to levy on rich people has been declared unconstitutional by the french supreme court. that's a socialist government, socialist supreme court saying

higher taxes on the rich are unconstitutional unlike our supreme court here in our socialist paradise. >> we are wall lowing in irony. we are absolutely wall lowing. >> andy, we have so much more, but i am out of time. >> really? >> yes. >> sorry to hear that, man. >> you sold that. >> he did. i believe him. >> mike, see you at the end. coming up, you are cold as ice, willing to sacrifice our love. not a story, a text greg sent me on new year's eve. let it go, greg. anyway, what is left to say about kim and ye? as usual, as long as it rhymes. it don't matter.

are you guys done with your chit chat? can i do a show now? will the baby's fix put them in a fix? kim cash dash yen is presenting -- kim kardashian

is pregnant. when this future head case is born the photos could fetch big money. it could lead to a disagreement between the rapper and the talent less family. a source tells page six con yea will want to -- kanye will want to post them his way, no doubt through twitter and chris -- kris generaller would want to get the highest bidder. kim says when people say pregnancy is like fun and they love it, i would have to disagree. i wouldn't say it has been easy. she adds, of course, i heard it is all worth it, so i am looking forward to that. let's discuss in the. >> lightning round. >> wow, i just feel awful right now. lori -- >> of course, start with me. i popped out two myself. >> this is a huge story with huge national and international implications. how much money do you think they will get for the first picture of their little monster? >> probably a million bucks. >> in this market, i don't know. >> they are hotly in demand.

you might say they are a talent less family, but they have charisma. people watch them. they love each other. they are a good family. i don't mind the kardashians. >> you make me sick. i will not wait a minute, ma'am. i will not wait a minute. >> are you channeling greg and being annoying. >> i know. one thing if you need money and you can get a nice chunk of change for selling a picture of your newborn. does this family not have enough money? >> it is hideous. this is the story that makes me wish the mayans were right. there could have been some uh poke -- apocalypse. the only way i could enjoy this picture is if as the baby was born kanye jumps in president fro. they are just so gross. this was a pairing of really the two most annoying celebrities. >> i was going to add that i did find her the least interesting out of all of the kardashians. >> that is the harshest thing you could possibly sai. and

also hurtful to rob. >> i was going to say that doesn't paris hilton seem really classy right now? >> she kind of does. >> where has she been? >> in a bunker of valtrex. >> i have this on good authority. >> bill, would you consider charging for pictures of your seven daughters ? >> i don't even know what they look like so how will i find photos others have taken? don't send them to me, by the way. i really did not think kim would get pregnant. for no other reason she will have to go through thousands and thousands of twitter responses asking if she is having the baby in her butt. that's exactly what i am assuming happened. i condemn all of you for saying that. it is a beautiful thing and i wish her well. >> next topic, please god. >> why did you put it in the show? >> i was forced to. >> intel was set to shake up the cable tv by offering the ability to subscribe to

individual channels. the company's new set top box will deliver content to any device with an internet connection. critics say the unbundling of channels will drive costs way up for cable subscribers. i will go ahead and say this ain't gonna happen. they will not let this happen. >> i think i agree. there are too many regulatory hurdles and there are so many competetors. are you talking about intel the chip maker? i don't understand why they would go into this market when there is apple with apple tv and amazon and all of these other con tepts ssments. >> i don't think it is an intel thing. they that i want to put the tv out. i don't think disney and fox and whatever, all of the con at the present time providers, they want -- the content providers they want their stuff bundled. >> the consumer doesn't want to bundle them. all it takes is one big media company to realize it is all over. and when that -- when the dominoes come down, we all work for a lot less -- well i don't, but you do. >> this may happen eventually,

joe, but it will be like the music industry where the technology far out stripped what the music companies could deal with to the point where half went out of business. it lead to piracy and whatever. >> first i want to clarify i could not possibly work for any less. >> that is true. >> when i first heard about this i thought this is a great idea. pretty much all i watch are forensic shows and ultimate fighting. that's it. now i i don't have to worry about skipping through the channels and see a guy eating himself to death. i don't know how they will allow it. if you can come in and say i watch these three channel channels, what will they charge? $1.50 each? it will de voi the industry and i can't see how that could happen. >> i want to go to bill. i know you are making a list of channels you will subscribe to. is that it? >> that's about it. this is why it is never going to happen. the bundling, the specific bundling is the fact that all of these other channels, the lesser ones as i like to call

them, they know that you candice cover stuff by slipping, and i have. the smithsonian is a delight. i don't mind saying it. but i didn't know the smithsonian existed until i saw it with cbs which i would never go on. so i also think it is bad for the consumer. you are going to miss out on more than you get. >> all right. time to take a break. it wasn't a bad point. >> when we return, a perm -- a performance from christopher cross.

>> baked on a buttery foot crust. >> baked in a buttery flavored crust. baked in a buttery flavored crust. >> baked in a buttery flakey crust. >> baked in a buttery flakey crust. >> bake owed a buttery crispy crust. >> flakey. >> they should have a coupon. baked on a buttery, crispy crust. >> flakey!

>> i said flakey. okay. >> oh my gosh. >> baked on a buttery flakey crust. >> you should have had me do that. >> baked in a bake -- oh! >> baked in a buttery, crispy flight. >> that was adorable. that is like you two in years. >> those are out takes. shouldn't they just do that in the commercial? >> those two just drove away from that which is terrifying. behind the wheel of a buttery, flakey crust. >> you work in hollywood. is this commonplace? great actors, is this what they are like? >> anderson coper and kathy griffin put on a great show. i enjoyed it. it was fun. new year's eve was festive. everything was so cool. i say it was fun. let them have fun.

>> lori anything more about how great kim kardashian is? >> i just, you know, you get why people watch them. they are watchable. >> are you watchable too. >> i will never be accustomed to what they show off. it is a little over the top. but give them credit for supporting each other and caring. >> no, you don't. >> bill, any last words to add? >> that guy was animated, pleasant, slightly female. i see myself in him in five years. >> excellent. we will close things out with a post game wrap up with mike baker. to see clips of recent shows go go -- go to fox news.com/red eye.

time to go back to mike baker for the post game wrap up. >> thanks for the plug. idaho appreciates it. >> you going someplace next week? >> i will be headlining as wise guys